Hank Green

You're like trying to do this the right way.

And one of the things my brother and I call this the perfect person problem that if you if you tell people you're trying to do.

do things well and you're trying to do things right, then people will expect you to do it perfect and there's no such thing as perfect and there's always things that you're balancing.

How do you imagine and manage your own public perception where you want people to know that you really are trying to do things better, but you also need to convey to people that you will not be perfect?

I think that the dropout audience, in part because of, I mean, there's a demographic thing here.

But there's also, they're responding to and signing up in part because of a halo here that you're helping to create by doing things well.

their expectations are going to be high.

You've got a high expectation crowd.

And I've seen some examples where they feel as if you're not maybe living up to your values or something like that.

Is that management, that reputational management, do you see that as a big part of your job?

And how do you imagine that?

Is this part of growing up in a household where a lot of nasty things might have been said about your dad?

Mm-hmm.

Interesting.

Is there on the list of reasons that you like this or want to do this?

We talked about those before, but let's end here with this.

Is on that list just that people aren't doing things weird enough and you want to do things weird enough?

You want to like show that like.

All right.

Well, that feels right to me.