Hanna Rosin

With every day that goes by, the ceasefire in Gaza, if we can even still call it that, seems increasingly fragile. Arab countries have offered a plan. American diplomats met with Hamas. But so far, no agreement and no consensus. For the people in Gaza, survival is getting harder by the day.

With every day that goes by, the ceasefire in Gaza, if we can even still call it that, seems increasingly fragile. Arab countries have offered a plan. American diplomats met with Hamas. But so far, no agreement and no consensus. For the people in Gaza, survival is getting harder by the day.

With every day that goes by, the ceasefire in Gaza, if we can even still call it that, seems increasingly fragile. Arab countries have offered a plan. American diplomats met with Hamas. But so far, no agreement and no consensus. For the people in Gaza, survival is getting harder by the day.

About a week ago, Israel once again cut off power, which is important because there are still 2 million people living in Gaza, and power helps bring them clean water. And clean water helps keep them alive. I'm Hannah Rosen, and this is Radio Atlantic. Over a year ago, we did an episode about a man named Marwan Bardawil.

About a week ago, Israel once again cut off power, which is important because there are still 2 million people living in Gaza, and power helps bring them clean water. And clean water helps keep them alive. I'm Hannah Rosen, and this is Radio Atlantic. Over a year ago, we did an episode about a man named Marwan Bardawil.

About a week ago, Israel once again cut off power, which is important because there are still 2 million people living in Gaza, and power helps bring them clean water. And clean water helps keep them alive. I'm Hannah Rosen, and this is Radio Atlantic. Over a year ago, we did an episode about a man named Marwan Bardawil.

He's a water engineer in Gaza, someone who's regularly calculating inflows, outflows, reviewing plans, engineering new ideas to keep the Gazans with some access to clean water, regardless of peace, war, whatever's going on politically. And something about this bureaucrat trying day after day to keep the water on really captured the growing desperation of the war.

He's a water engineer in Gaza, someone who's regularly calculating inflows, outflows, reviewing plans, engineering new ideas to keep the Gazans with some access to clean water, regardless of peace, war, whatever's going on politically. And something about this bureaucrat trying day after day to keep the water on really captured the growing desperation of the war.

He's a water engineer in Gaza, someone who's regularly calculating inflows, outflows, reviewing plans, engineering new ideas to keep the Gazans with some access to clean water, regardless of peace, war, whatever's going on politically. And something about this bureaucrat trying day after day to keep the water on really captured the growing desperation of the war.

Like, he was just an ordinary guy trying to do a job that was hard before October 7th and continued to get more impossible by the day. When we finished that episode, Marwan was still in Gaza. Like thousands of Gazans, when the war began, he and his family were displaced from the north to the south.

Like, he was just an ordinary guy trying to do a job that was hard before October 7th and continued to get more impossible by the day. When we finished that episode, Marwan was still in Gaza. Like thousands of Gazans, when the war began, he and his family were displaced from the north to the south.

Like, he was just an ordinary guy trying to do a job that was hard before October 7th and continued to get more impossible by the day. When we finished that episode, Marwan was still in Gaza. Like thousands of Gazans, when the war began, he and his family were displaced from the north to the south.

And then recently, Marwan made the difficult decision to move his family entirely out of Gaza and over to Egypt, where our executive producer, Claudine Abade, caught up with him to try and learn more about what leaving meant for him and for the future of water for the Palestinian people. Claudine, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me.

And then recently, Marwan made the difficult decision to move his family entirely out of Gaza and over to Egypt, where our executive producer, Claudine Abade, caught up with him to try and learn more about what leaving meant for him and for the future of water for the Palestinian people. Claudine, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me.

And then recently, Marwan made the difficult decision to move his family entirely out of Gaza and over to Egypt, where our executive producer, Claudine Abade, caught up with him to try and learn more about what leaving meant for him and for the future of water for the Palestinian people. Claudine, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me.

So, Claudine, there's so much happening politically at this moment, but I want to step back and talk about the Palestinians themselves, the thousands who've had their lives basically upended during the war. I know many have left the country. What did Marwan tell you about why he decided to leave?

So, Claudine, there's so much happening politically at this moment, but I want to step back and talk about the Palestinians themselves, the thousands who've had their lives basically upended during the war. I know many have left the country. What did Marwan tell you about why he decided to leave?

So, Claudine, there's so much happening politically at this moment, but I want to step back and talk about the Palestinians themselves, the thousands who've had their lives basically upended during the war. I know many have left the country. What did Marwan tell you about why he decided to leave?

How did water work in Gaza before the war? Because I recall from talking to him that it wasn't easy, even the best of non-war circumstances, to keep water flowing.

How did water work in Gaza before the war? Because I recall from talking to him that it wasn't easy, even the best of non-war circumstances, to keep water flowing.