Hannah Fry

But it's so complex.

And you add in the brother stuff.

I relate so much to Frank Jr.

in terms of the universal experience of having a little brother.

I've never had one, so... So having a little brother is, I think, as a woman, the most unnatural sibling dynamic in that you would never... There's a world in which I think girls would be friends with a boy a bit older than them.

Mm-hmm.

And I think that there's a world in which you'd be friends with a girl older than you or younger than you.

There is just like no world outside of a sibling relationship where as a 16 year old girl, you would want to be friends with a 12 year old boy or 13 year old boy.

I think it's the hardest thing.

sibling dynamic in which to find an effortless friendship i'm really lucky with my brother we definitely got there but we definitely struggled in our teens and we had to just find you know that episode where she's so desperate to make and all he wants to do is melt things

but it's like just finding these and then I think at the end they're like trying to find these tiny things that they connect on yeah and that's what me and my brother had that for years it was like we would just have these certain programs or these certain things we like to eat or these certain in-jokes where as long as we have those we could find something to talk about yeah yeah um

And she kind of despairs and worries that he's had a really bad time with her over the course of his stay.

And then at the end he says, well, this was like the best weekend of my life and we had such great chats and we connected deeply.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Which again, I think that my brother was a bit like that.

When we were younger, I think he was like after much less than I was.

I think I was in this like epic bond.

Totally.

That he just like didn't need that from me.

He was happy to like just watch Friends and get a delivery.