Hannah Rosen

It's a common human impulse.

So why is it important to remember something like what your mother went through?

Why?

Adam, this week, there was a pushback against this trend we're describing from a federal judge who ruled about the panels at what's known as the president's house in Philadelphia that were taken down.

It was quite a strong ruling.

She quoted Orwell.

She said an agency cannot arbitrarily decide what is true.

How significant is that ruling?

Like, have you seen other kinds of pushback like that?

Although that conversation about facts does often confuse me a little bit.

Like, what we do do is decide which facts we're going to present, which is what the Trump administration is saying, like, why do we have to put those on display, you know?

As you both know, this week, Jesse Jackson died.

Did you find yourself thinking differently about him as we start to hear his voice on the radio this week?

Because I imagine like most people, you just haven't thought about him in a minute.

Yeah, I was surprised at my reaction to the I am somebody speech, which I heard when I was in college.

He came to my college campus.

He spoke to us.

And I realized it settled in my memory almost like a song, like a rhythm.

I am somebody.

But just listening to the words, you know, I am poor, I am unemployed, I am in prison.