Hannah Rosen

The Department of Homeland Security said they put the two agents involved in Preti's shooting on administrative leave.

And Trump called for a, quote, big investigation into the shooting.

I'm Hannah Rosen.

This is Radio Atlantic.

In this episode, an interview with Walls.

Atlantic staff writer Isaac Stanley Becker interviewed the governor on Wednesday to get a sense of whether he thinks the promises Trump is making will make a difference on the ground in Minnesota.

Isaac, welcome to the show.

So going into this interview with Tim Walz, what was the main thing that you were wondering about?

Was there any point where Walz felt like he could have done anything differently to de-escalate or tone things down or even prevent what happened?

Because he came in, you know, somewhat hot, I would say, in his interview with you.

After the break, we hear Governor Walz's reaction to the news that federal agents involved in the Alex Preddy shooting have been placed on leave.

And if he thinks we're in a Fort Sumter moment.

We've all been reading and hearing a lot about Minneapolis, watching the videos.

Did he address at all the trauma to the state, like how it felt to be there?

There were points when he was talking to you where it seemed like it was surreal, the experience that he just went through, like Atwood novel kind of surreal.

Well, Isaac, thank you so much for doing this interview and for joining us today.

This episode of Radio Atlantic was produced by Janae West with reporting from Jocelyn Frank.

It was edited by Kevin Townsend.

Rob Smirsak engineered and composed original music.

Claudina Bade is the executive producer of audio at The Atlantic and Andrea Valdez is our managing editor.