Hannah Rosen
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At that time, it was really detected in just a small number of herds that the government could have really intervened. They basically could have done more to keep the virus from spreading to other herds. Instead, they kind of let business proceed as usual and dairy cattle move all over the place throughout their lifetime. they gave the virus more opportunities to spread.
That should have been five alarm fire level of we need to ratchet up this response and make sure that the virus does not move any further than it already has. And that did not happen. Got it.
That should have been five alarm fire level of we need to ratchet up this response and make sure that the virus does not move any further than it already has. And that did not happen. Got it.
That should have been five alarm fire level of we need to ratchet up this response and make sure that the virus does not move any further than it already has. And that did not happen. Got it.
Oh, absolutely not. And I think the right question to be asking is how prepared would we be if this truly escalated to that point? And, you know, the answer is not at all, like not even a little bit.
Oh, absolutely not. And I think the right question to be asking is how prepared would we be if this truly escalated to that point? And, you know, the answer is not at all, like not even a little bit.
Oh, absolutely not. And I think the right question to be asking is how prepared would we be if this truly escalated to that point? And, you know, the answer is not at all, like not even a little bit.
It's impossible to say with any kind of certainty, oh, there's exactly a 14.7% chance this is going to turn into a pandemic, or there's exactly a 72% chance that we're going to see this spreading from human to human in a sustained way. We can't know those things.
It's impossible to say with any kind of certainty, oh, there's exactly a 14.7% chance this is going to turn into a pandemic, or there's exactly a 72% chance that we're going to see this spreading from human to human in a sustained way. We can't know those things.
It's impossible to say with any kind of certainty, oh, there's exactly a 14.7% chance this is going to turn into a pandemic, or there's exactly a 72% chance that we're going to see this spreading from human to human in a sustained way. We can't know those things.
A lot of this is about randomness, about how we continue to respond, about just vagaries of the virus that people don't fully understand yet. I think what needs to be happening is more on the prevention side and more about preparedness, which are two things that the U.S., especially when it comes to infectious disease, are just catastrophically bad at.
A lot of this is about randomness, about how we continue to respond, about just vagaries of the virus that people don't fully understand yet. I think what needs to be happening is more on the prevention side and more about preparedness, which are two things that the U.S., especially when it comes to infectious disease, are just catastrophically bad at.
A lot of this is about randomness, about how we continue to respond, about just vagaries of the virus that people don't fully understand yet. I think what needs to be happening is more on the prevention side and more about preparedness, which are two things that the U.S., especially when it comes to infectious disease, are just catastrophically bad at.
No, I think in a lot of ways we're even worse prepared now than we were at the start of the COVID pandemic for several different reasons. I think in part because the public is still really fatigued from having to respond to all of that. There was a lot of trust in public health and science eroded during that time.
No, I think in a lot of ways we're even worse prepared now than we were at the start of the COVID pandemic for several different reasons. I think in part because the public is still really fatigued from having to respond to all of that. There was a lot of trust in public health and science eroded during that time.
No, I think in a lot of ways we're even worse prepared now than we were at the start of the COVID pandemic for several different reasons. I think in part because the public is still really fatigued from having to respond to all of that. There was a lot of trust in public health and science eroded during that time.
And I think because of the nature of the slow burn of all this, just slowly percolating through animals affected certain farm animals, like maybe sort of affecting some aspects of the food supply. But for the most part, it's not that difficult to ignore that this entire situation is going on. And I think that makes it much easier for people to, in general, just keep tuning this out.
And I think because of the nature of the slow burn of all this, just slowly percolating through animals affected certain farm animals, like maybe sort of affecting some aspects of the food supply. But for the most part, it's not that difficult to ignore that this entire situation is going on. And I think that makes it much easier for people to, in general, just keep tuning this out.
And I think because of the nature of the slow burn of all this, just slowly percolating through animals affected certain farm animals, like maybe sort of affecting some aspects of the food supply. But for the most part, it's not that difficult to ignore that this entire situation is going on. And I think that makes it much easier for people to, in general, just keep tuning this out.
It's become normal to hear just, you know, slight murmurings about bird flu in the news and then to move on with your day. We didn't have that luxury with COVID. It was forced upon everyone. Everyone's lives changed radically and almost instantaneously.