Hannah Rosen

And that is, you know, an animal that is in really close proximity to us, shares a lot of biology with us. That is kind of the moment that a lot of experts told me should have been the most clear inflection point, the point at which the government should have really, really cracked down on this issue and been able to do something about it.

But because they didn't, you know, at the time there wasn't enough testing, there wasn't enough outreach to farm workers who were in close proximity to the virus, because they sort of let that moment go and allowed the virus to spread to more and more dairy herds, the situation has now become so much more difficult to contain.

But because they didn't, you know, at the time there wasn't enough testing, there wasn't enough outreach to farm workers who were in close proximity to the virus, because they sort of let that moment go and allowed the virus to spread to more and more dairy herds, the situation has now become so much more difficult to contain.

But because they didn't, you know, at the time there wasn't enough testing, there wasn't enough outreach to farm workers who were in close proximity to the virus, because they sort of let that moment go and allowed the virus to spread to more and more dairy herds, the situation has now become so much more difficult to contain.

And some researchers are worried that we might never be able to really get rid of this virus on this continent.

And some researchers are worried that we might never be able to really get rid of this virus on this continent.

And some researchers are worried that we might never be able to really get rid of this virus on this continent.

I mean, I'm sure conversations are happening. I'm sure someone in the government would argue that that is the case, but definitely not enough. And I think one really challenging space to be talking about right now is still vaccines, not just because there aren't obvious answers there about how and when and to whom and in what species to deploy those vaccines.

I mean, I'm sure conversations are happening. I'm sure someone in the government would argue that that is the case, but definitely not enough. And I think one really challenging space to be talking about right now is still vaccines, not just because there aren't obvious answers there about how and when and to whom and in what species to deploy those vaccines.

I mean, I'm sure conversations are happening. I'm sure someone in the government would argue that that is the case, but definitely not enough. And I think one really challenging space to be talking about right now is still vaccines, not just because there aren't obvious answers there about how and when and to whom and in what species to deploy those vaccines.

That's certainly controversial even among scientists who have worked in this field for a very long time. But also because, you know, our new HHS secretary doesn't have the best track record with vaccines and certainly not with advancing the most important public health narrative, which is collective action for the public good.

That's certainly controversial even among scientists who have worked in this field for a very long time. But also because, you know, our new HHS secretary doesn't have the best track record with vaccines and certainly not with advancing the most important public health narrative, which is collective action for the public good.

That's certainly controversial even among scientists who have worked in this field for a very long time. But also because, you know, our new HHS secretary doesn't have the best track record with vaccines and certainly not with advancing the most important public health narrative, which is collective action for the public good.

Right now, everything I am hearing from HHS is about personal choice, individual liberty, and just kind of letting things flow naturally and hoping for the best.

Right now, everything I am hearing from HHS is about personal choice, individual liberty, and just kind of letting things flow naturally and hoping for the best.

Right now, everything I am hearing from HHS is about personal choice, individual liberty, and just kind of letting things flow naturally and hoping for the best.

I guess my reaction to that is, what level of natural are you willing to accept? I would say that, you know, in human history, there were, and still are, depending on what part of the world you live in, periods of human existence where it was perfectly natural to not see your child live to the age of one. Is that the kind of natural that we want to see?

I guess my reaction to that is, what level of natural are you willing to accept? I would say that, you know, in human history, there were, and still are, depending on what part of the world you live in, periods of human existence where it was perfectly natural to not see your child live to the age of one. Is that the kind of natural that we want to see?

I guess my reaction to that is, what level of natural are you willing to accept? I would say that, you know, in human history, there were, and still are, depending on what part of the world you live in, periods of human existence where it was perfectly natural to not see your child live to the age of one. Is that the kind of natural that we want to see?

There have been periods where it was natural to see bacterial infections completely take over a person's body and kill them, and that was just the expected outcome because we weren't using antibiotics. Or, you know, it was natural to expect bloodletting to be a sufficient medical intervention.