Hannah Rosen

I don't know how people are going to react anymore. if we get into that situation and they're asked to vaccinate. Also, we know that the flu vaccine is not as effective as the measles vaccine. That is just simply a product of, you know, how quickly these viruses change and the nature of immunity to them.

I worry that those differences will make it even more difficult for misinformation to seep through and for people to, you know, take their cues from the government and really run with them in the event of a flu pandemic. It could get so much worse so much more quickly.

I worry that those differences will make it even more difficult for misinformation to seep through and for people to, you know, take their cues from the government and really run with them in the event of a flu pandemic. It could get so much worse so much more quickly.

I worry that those differences will make it even more difficult for misinformation to seep through and for people to, you know, take their cues from the government and really run with them in the event of a flu pandemic. It could get so much worse so much more quickly.

I think it depends what we consider the tipping point. Arguably, there is kind of a biological tipping point when the virus starts spreading from person to person. that won't be noticed in real time, or at least it's highly unlikely, right? Like the virus would have to start doing that and then scientists would catch it because it has already started happening.

I think it depends what we consider the tipping point. Arguably, there is kind of a biological tipping point when the virus starts spreading from person to person. that won't be noticed in real time, or at least it's highly unlikely, right? Like the virus would have to start doing that and then scientists would catch it because it has already started happening.

I think it depends what we consider the tipping point. Arguably, there is kind of a biological tipping point when the virus starts spreading from person to person. that won't be noticed in real time, or at least it's highly unlikely, right? Like the virus would have to start doing that and then scientists would catch it because it has already started happening.

And we may never know the day that that starts happening, if it ever does. Then I think there is kind of the... public consciousness tipping point, which is going to just have to be the more relevant thing. Like, to draw the comparison to COVID, we still don't know exactly how, exactly when, you know, what animal first passed it to a human and what exactly happened after that.

And we may never know the day that that starts happening, if it ever does. Then I think there is kind of the... public consciousness tipping point, which is going to just have to be the more relevant thing. Like, to draw the comparison to COVID, we still don't know exactly how, exactly when, you know, what animal first passed it to a human and what exactly happened after that.

And we may never know the day that that starts happening, if it ever does. Then I think there is kind of the... public consciousness tipping point, which is going to just have to be the more relevant thing. Like, to draw the comparison to COVID, we still don't know exactly how, exactly when, you know, what animal first passed it to a human and what exactly happened after that.

And we probably will never know. You know, that stuff is gone. Scientists learn that information retroactively, and they can't go back in time and recreate that timeline. What we do know is public attendance started focusing on the pandemic in the months that followed, and that's what I would expect here. But I think the most important takeaway here is that

And we probably will never know. You know, that stuff is gone. Scientists learn that information retroactively, and they can't go back in time and recreate that timeline. What we do know is public attendance started focusing on the pandemic in the months that followed, and that's what I would expect here. But I think the most important takeaway here is that

And we probably will never know. You know, that stuff is gone. Scientists learn that information retroactively, and they can't go back in time and recreate that timeline. What we do know is public attendance started focusing on the pandemic in the months that followed, and that's what I would expect here. But I think the most important takeaway here is that

That inflection point, the one that would command public awareness, hasn't yet happened, which means there's still time to act. And I think that requires people to hold two realities in their brain at once. One is about the present moment, during which the risk to most of the public is still low. But the second thing that people have to hold in mind is that won't necessarily stay true.

That inflection point, the one that would command public awareness, hasn't yet happened, which means there's still time to act. And I think that requires people to hold two realities in their brain at once. One is about the present moment, during which the risk to most of the public is still low. But the second thing that people have to hold in mind is that won't necessarily stay true.

That inflection point, the one that would command public awareness, hasn't yet happened, which means there's still time to act. And I think that requires people to hold two realities in their brain at once. One is about the present moment, during which the risk to most of the public is still low. But the second thing that people have to hold in mind is that won't necessarily stay true.

Katie, thank you for joining us. Thank you so much for having me.

Katie, thank you for joining us. Thank you so much for having me.

Katie, thank you for joining us. Thank you so much for having me.

So again, she always tells me about these God visits, as she calls them, that happen at night. And so I said, did he talk to you again last night? And she said, yes, unfortunately. And then she does dot, dot, dot, dot, dot.