Hannah Rosen

Anne begann ihre Karriere, Autokratie auf der ganzen Welt zu tracken. Und mit dem Wachstum von Trump begann sie, es in ihrem eigenen Land zu bemerken.

And this new administration's shift in tone has been so sudden and so stark that I want to understand it better and figure out what its implications might be.

And this new administration's shift in tone has been so sudden and so stark that I want to understand it better and figure out what its implications might be.

And this new administration's shift in tone has been so sudden and so stark that I want to understand it better and figure out what its implications might be.

Yeah, I guess that's the way to put it. The U.S. appears to be switching sides. I mean, I'm trying to think of the right way to characterize this. I mean, you immediately said the end of the post-World War II order. Like you declared that right after these things happened. Do you feel strongly, you feel definitively about that?

Yeah, I guess that's the way to put it. The U.S. appears to be switching sides. I mean, I'm trying to think of the right way to characterize this. I mean, you immediately said the end of the post-World War II order. Like you declared that right after these things happened. Do you feel strongly, you feel definitively about that?

Yeah, I guess that's the way to put it. The U.S. appears to be switching sides. I mean, I'm trying to think of the right way to characterize this. I mean, you immediately said the end of the post-World War II order. Like you declared that right after these things happened. Do you feel strongly, you feel definitively about that?

I mean, I guess what's rattling about this moment is there isn't a precipitating event. There isn't a ratcheting up of hostilities the way there has been historically. It's just Trump. It's just, you know, he changed his mind. So there's really no warning. However, he did signal during his campaign, you know, Russia should be able to do whatever the hell it wanted.

I mean, I guess what's rattling about this moment is there isn't a precipitating event. There isn't a ratcheting up of hostilities the way there has been historically. It's just Trump. It's just, you know, he changed his mind. So there's really no warning. However, he did signal during his campaign, you know, Russia should be able to do whatever the hell it wanted.

I mean, I guess what's rattling about this moment is there isn't a precipitating event. There isn't a ratcheting up of hostilities the way there has been historically. It's just Trump. It's just, you know, he changed his mind. So there's really no warning. However, he did signal during his campaign, you know, Russia should be able to do whatever the hell it wanted.

Is what's rattling, especially about this moment, the speed, like it all unraveled in, you know, a few weeks? Yeah.

Is what's rattling, especially about this moment, the speed, like it all unraveled in, you know, a few weeks? Yeah.

Is what's rattling, especially about this moment, the speed, like it all unraveled in, you know, a few weeks? Yeah.

The whole thing brings up the forever question about Trump, is he chaotic or intentional? Which I think is important here, because intentional would imply that he is actively remaking the world order, like actively aligning the US with Russia. Do you sense that's the case? I think it's a possibility, yeah. You do? I do. And why? What are the best guesses about why? To what end?

The whole thing brings up the forever question about Trump, is he chaotic or intentional? Which I think is important here, because intentional would imply that he is actively remaking the world order, like actively aligning the US with Russia. Do you sense that's the case? I think it's a possibility, yeah. You do? I do. And why? What are the best guesses about why? To what end?

The whole thing brings up the forever question about Trump, is he chaotic or intentional? Which I think is important here, because intentional would imply that he is actively remaking the world order, like actively aligning the US with Russia. Do you sense that's the case? I think it's a possibility, yeah. You do? I do. And why? What are the best guesses about why? To what end?

Yeah. I mean, that's the moment where I sat up and took notice, is the way he was talking about Ukraine, repeating such obvious lies about the origins of that war. And then also that document that the Treasury Secretary offered Ukraine. Can you describe that document? That one for me was a shocker.

Yeah. I mean, that's the moment where I sat up and took notice, is the way he was talking about Ukraine, repeating such obvious lies about the origins of that war. And then also that document that the Treasury Secretary offered Ukraine. Can you describe that document? That one for me was a shocker.

Yeah. I mean, that's the moment where I sat up and took notice, is the way he was talking about Ukraine, repeating such obvious lies about the origins of that war. And then also that document that the Treasury Secretary offered Ukraine. Can you describe that document? That one for me was a shocker.

And what's unprecedented about that, that it's unfolding like a real estate negotiation or what is unusual about it?