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Harold 'Sonny' White

πŸ‘€ Speaker
1185 total appearances

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2318 - Harold "Sonny" White

And then they turned on the radars and they're like, well, something's wrong because we're not seeing anything, right? And then a bird landed on the prototype and they saw the bird. And so when that happened, the whole program went black, right? It became classified. Before then it was not classified. Then it was classified. But it, of course, came out in the 90s with Gulf War I, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2318 - Harold "Sonny" White

I think we saw some… uh, some manifestations of this. And so there is a program that's extremely, uh, classified for the obvious reasons, but it still came out. Right. And then I also think about, you know, I worked at NASA, right? And so you have the, uh, worked at NASA for 20 years and you get the full spectrum of, of people serving different roles in a facility.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2318 - Harold "Sonny" White

I think we saw some… uh, some manifestations of this. And so there is a program that's extremely, uh, classified for the obvious reasons, but it still came out. Right. And then I also think about, you know, I worked at NASA, right? And so you have the, uh, worked at NASA for 20 years and you get the full spectrum of, of people serving different roles in a facility.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2318 - Harold "Sonny" White

I think we saw some… uh, some manifestations of this. And so there is a program that's extremely, uh, classified for the obvious reasons, but it still came out. Right. And then I also think about, you know, I worked at NASA, right? And so you have the, uh, worked at NASA for 20 years and you get the full spectrum of, of people serving different roles in a facility.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2318 - Harold "Sonny" White

And so you're always going to have people that, uh, you know, take out the garbage and do other different things like that. And so, you know, if you've got something that has, uh, implications like that. I mean, it could happen, but that's the thing I struggle with is there's a lot of different moving parts to try and keep that big of a secret. I mean, maybe it could happen, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2318 - Harold "Sonny" White

And so you're always going to have people that, uh, you know, take out the garbage and do other different things like that. And so, you know, if you've got something that has, uh, implications like that. I mean, it could happen, but that's the thing I struggle with is there's a lot of different moving parts to try and keep that big of a secret. I mean, maybe it could happen, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2318 - Harold "Sonny" White

And so you're always going to have people that, uh, you know, take out the garbage and do other different things like that. And so, you know, if you've got something that has, uh, implications like that. I mean, it could happen, but that's the thing I struggle with is there's a lot of different moving parts to try and keep that big of a secret. I mean, maybe it could happen, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2318 - Harold "Sonny" White

I would want to bring somebody in. Well, if somebody's got a manual that can help me figure out to go do something, give me a call, right? And I know I'm going to get all kinds of emails as a result of saying that, right? Of course. Kooks.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2318 - Harold "Sonny" White

I would want to bring somebody in. Well, if somebody's got a manual that can help me figure out to go do something, give me a call, right? And I know I'm going to get all kinds of emails as a result of saying that, right? Of course. Kooks.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2318 - Harold "Sonny" White

I would want to bring somebody in. Well, if somebody's got a manual that can help me figure out to go do something, give me a call, right? And I know I'm going to get all kinds of emails as a result of saying that, right? Of course. Kooks.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2318 - Harold "Sonny" White

Right. Maybe the thing that we could throw into the sandbox on this discussion is the Manhattan Project. Maybe there's a better example of something where they were working on something that was extremely important for humanity and they were able to keep a lot of those secrets for quite some time. So, yeah, maybe that's how you would have to run something like that, I guess. I don't know.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2318 - Harold "Sonny" White

Right. Maybe the thing that we could throw into the sandbox on this discussion is the Manhattan Project. Maybe there's a better example of something where they were working on something that was extremely important for humanity and they were able to keep a lot of those secrets for quite some time. So, yeah, maybe that's how you would have to run something like that, I guess. I don't know.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2318 - Harold "Sonny" White

Right. Maybe the thing that we could throw into the sandbox on this discussion is the Manhattan Project. Maybe there's a better example of something where they were working on something that was extremely important for humanity and they were able to keep a lot of those secrets for quite some time. So, yeah, maybe that's how you would have to run something like that, I guess. I don't know.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2318 - Harold "Sonny" White

Is that even... Certainly. So the government also has an organization called the Jasons, right, where they have a lot of extremely smart folks from academia. And they come in typically, I think it's like a summer assignment, if you will. And so they... They band together in the summer to go work on a series of problems that folks might have.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2318 - Harold "Sonny" White

Is that even... Certainly. So the government also has an organization called the Jasons, right, where they have a lot of extremely smart folks from academia. And they come in typically, I think it's like a summer assignment, if you will. And so they... They band together in the summer to go work on a series of problems that folks might have.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2318 - Harold "Sonny" White

Is that even... Certainly. So the government also has an organization called the Jasons, right, where they have a lot of extremely smart folks from academia. And they come in typically, I think it's like a summer assignment, if you will. And so they... They band together in the summer to go work on a series of problems that folks might have.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2318 - Harold "Sonny" White

And so they kind of – what you're asking me kind of makes me think about that kind of a mechanism where you have access to the best and the brightest across the entire spectrum of U.S. academia. And you pull them together and make them seal team six on whatever particular problem that you've got. But you could run into a problem where, you know, they might look at a problem and only –

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2318 - Harold "Sonny" White

And so they kind of – what you're asking me kind of makes me think about that kind of a mechanism where you have access to the best and the brightest across the entire spectrum of U.S. academia. And you pull them together and make them seal team six on whatever particular problem that you've got. But you could run into a problem where, you know, they might look at a problem and only –

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2318 - Harold "Sonny" White

And so they kind of – what you're asking me kind of makes me think about that kind of a mechanism where you have access to the best and the brightest across the entire spectrum of U.S. academia. And you pull them together and make them seal team six on whatever particular problem that you've got. But you could run into a problem where, you know, they might look at a problem and only –

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2318 - Harold "Sonny" White

Look at it in the context of what we know, right? You know, quantum mechanics and general relativity, and they don't want to think about new things that could potentially be brought to bear. So there could be some flies in the ointment with that thought process. But in some ways, that does kind of exist in what we know as the Jasons, right? And they do classified work all the time.