Harold 'Sonny' White

And they put enough energy into a particular location that they ionize the air. And so it creates like a bright pixel. And so they use that to create three-dimensional displays that kind of look like they're just floating out in air. Now, they're not quite as big as what we saw described with the Nimitz encounter on the West Coast.

So I thought for a little while maybe that might be something that we're seeing. They can project plasma.

So I thought for a little while maybe that might be something that we're seeing. They can project plasma.

So I thought for a little while maybe that might be something that we're seeing. They can project plasma.

as well right uh is that the same thing it's the same thing so that the two lasers intersect they ionize the air which creates a plasma and they can do this over long distances as well right i don't know about long distances i know they can do it over short distances and so that for a while there i wondered if that might be something that that could explain some of what that makes sense what david traver and the group saw the only problem would be the radar

as well right uh is that the same thing it's the same thing so that the two lasers intersect they ionize the air which creates a plasma and they can do this over long distances as well right i don't know about long distances i know they can do it over short distances and so that for a while there i wondered if that might be something that that could explain some of what that makes sense what david traver and the group saw the only problem would be the radar

as well right uh is that the same thing it's the same thing so that the two lasers intersect they ionize the air which creates a plasma and they can do this over long distances as well right i don't know about long distances i know they can do it over short distances and so that for a while there i wondered if that might be something that that could explain some of what that makes sense what david traver and the group saw the only problem would be the radar

Well, the plasma would certainly absorb a radar signal, right, because it's going to polarize any electromagnetic wave that tries to go through it. So it would show up? It might. It might. It might.

Well, the plasma would certainly absorb a radar signal, right, because it's going to polarize any electromagnetic wave that tries to go through it. So it would show up? It might. It might. It might.

Well, the plasma would certainly absorb a radar signal, right, because it's going to polarize any electromagnetic wave that tries to go through it. So it would show up? It might. It might. It might.

It's hard for me to imagine that. But so I think there's one piece of data that just came out in the last few weeks. I think David Fravor's wingman, Alex, I think her name is Alex Dietrich. I can't remember the name. I think you're right. So she came out. And so in all the things associated with that particular encounter,

It's hard for me to imagine that. But so I think there's one piece of data that just came out in the last few weeks. I think David Fravor's wingman, Alex, I think her name is Alex Dietrich. I can't remember the name. I think you're right. So she came out. And so in all the things associated with that particular encounter,

It's hard for me to imagine that. But so I think there's one piece of data that just came out in the last few weeks. I think David Fravor's wingman, Alex, I think her name is Alex Dietrich. I can't remember the name. I think you're right. So she came out. And so in all the things associated with that particular encounter,

One of the things I've been trying to figure out is how do they describe the specular surface of the tic-tac, right? Because if it's these plasma pixels that I'm talking about that kind of creates a volumetric display, I would speculate it might be kind of a glowy-looking thing. But I think Alex, in her account, described it as kind of a flat type of – Like matte, yeah.

One of the things I've been trying to figure out is how do they describe the specular surface of the tic-tac, right? Because if it's these plasma pixels that I'm talking about that kind of creates a volumetric display, I would speculate it might be kind of a glowy-looking thing. But I think Alex, in her account, described it as kind of a flat type of – Like matte, yeah.

One of the things I've been trying to figure out is how do they describe the specular surface of the tic-tac, right? Because if it's these plasma pixels that I'm talking about that kind of creates a volumetric display, I would speculate it might be kind of a glowy-looking thing. But I think Alex, in her account, described it as kind of a flat type of – Like matte, yeah.

Yeah, so that kind of torpedoed my working theory. But, again, while it's amazing and incredible and it's something that people want to go think about and go try and collect more data, it doesn't help me do what I'm doing in the lab. And so I think I kind of keep, you know, my eyes dart every once in a while over to that particular topic. Oh, what's that about? That's interesting, right?

Yeah, so that kind of torpedoed my working theory. But, again, while it's amazing and incredible and it's something that people want to go think about and go try and collect more data, it doesn't help me do what I'm doing in the lab. And so I think I kind of keep, you know, my eyes dart every once in a while over to that particular topic. Oh, what's that about? That's interesting, right?

Yeah, so that kind of torpedoed my working theory. But, again, while it's amazing and incredible and it's something that people want to go think about and go try and collect more data, it doesn't help me do what I'm doing in the lab. And so I think I kind of keep, you know, my eyes dart every once in a while over to that particular topic. Oh, what's that about? That's interesting, right?

Well, I think in order to do – so I'm going to use a different parlance, right? Please do because obviously I don't know what I'm talking about. No, no, no. That's okay. That's okay. Right. So in terms of some of the language that we use in the literature when we talk about something that would, I think, trace to what you mean when you say a gravity drive. We might use the parlance space drive.