Harold 'Sonny' White

I think they'll eventually get there, right? Those are just illustrations of the fact it takes a while to get everything dialed in. Just like it took us 18 months to get our first chip, and then now we're getting a two-week sprint. We can make our chip, but it took five years to get to that capability, if you will. I think they'll get all that figured out.

I think they'll eventually get there, right? Those are just illustrations of the fact it takes a while to get everything dialed in. Just like it took us 18 months to get our first chip, and then now we're getting a two-week sprint. We can make our chip, but it took five years to get to that capability, if you will. I think they'll get all that figured out.

I think they'll eventually get there, right? Those are just illustrations of the fact it takes a while to get everything dialed in. Just like it took us 18 months to get our first chip, and then now we're getting a two-week sprint. We can make our chip, but it took five years to get to that capability, if you will. I think they'll get all that figured out.

But in my mind, the other value proposition for chip manufacturing – right, is to me chip manufacturing is like the 21st century automobile manufacturing jobs, if you will. It seems like that could provide a great opportunity for, you know, people to get meaningful work that pays well, that makes a product that a lot of people need, right?

But in my mind, the other value proposition for chip manufacturing – right, is to me chip manufacturing is like the 21st century automobile manufacturing jobs, if you will. It seems like that could provide a great opportunity for, you know, people to get meaningful work that pays well, that makes a product that a lot of people need, right?

But in my mind, the other value proposition for chip manufacturing – right, is to me chip manufacturing is like the 21st century automobile manufacturing jobs, if you will. It seems like that could provide a great opportunity for, you know, people to get meaningful work that pays well, that makes a product that a lot of people need, right?

And so I think in some ways that's the upside to trying to focus on getting more chip manufacturing here in the States, right? I just think that's a win-win, right?

And so I think in some ways that's the upside to trying to focus on getting more chip manufacturing here in the States, right? I just think that's a win-win, right?

And so I think in some ways that's the upside to trying to focus on getting more chip manufacturing here in the States, right? I just think that's a win-win, right?

Is it China or Taiwan? I don't know. I believe it's China. Okay. Because I think, certainly, I don't know definitively either, right?

Is it China or Taiwan? I don't know. I believe it's China. Okay. Because I think, certainly, I don't know definitively either, right?

Is it China or Taiwan? I don't know. I believe it's China. Okay. Because I think, certainly, I don't know definitively either, right?

So when I think of cutting-edge chip capability, I think of TSMC that is in Taiwan. And they've got those machines, the ASML machines. This is a very interesting thing, right? So the machines that help make some of those tiny chips that are inside the iPhone, they're made by this machine that's developed by a company called ASML over in Taiwan.

So when I think of cutting-edge chip capability, I think of TSMC that is in Taiwan. And they've got those machines, the ASML machines. This is a very interesting thing, right? So the machines that help make some of those tiny chips that are inside the iPhone, they're made by this machine that's developed by a company called ASML over in Taiwan.

So when I think of cutting-edge chip capability, I think of TSMC that is in Taiwan. And they've got those machines, the ASML machines. This is a very interesting thing, right? So the machines that help make some of those tiny chips that are inside the iPhone, they're made by this machine that's developed by a company called ASML over in Taiwan.

the netherlands um and you know part of me thinks it's like that's a very small brain trust of people right that are making machines that are kind of you know setting the pace for you know because i think about how what happens if somebody you know a bus has an accident or something like that right because it's just like such a small group of people that have this skill on how to make these right these tiny little features that are

the netherlands um and you know part of me thinks it's like that's a very small brain trust of people right that are making machines that are kind of you know setting the pace for you know because i think about how what happens if somebody you know a bus has an accident or something like that right because it's just like such a small group of people that have this skill on how to make these right these tiny little features that are

the netherlands um and you know part of me thinks it's like that's a very small brain trust of people right that are making machines that are kind of you know setting the pace for you know because i think about how what happens if somebody you know a bus has an accident or something like that right because it's just like such a small group of people that have this skill on how to make these right these tiny little features that are

Two or three nanometers. I mean, that's crazy small. What percentage of the population can do that? Right. There's not a lot. And two or three nanometers, it's like that's – you know, if you were to put DNA on the table, right, and you calculated two or three nanometers, it'd be as very – here, let me give you – here's a better comparison. If you hold a marble in your hand –

Two or three nanometers. I mean, that's crazy small. What percentage of the population can do that? Right. There's not a lot. And two or three nanometers, it's like that's – you know, if you were to put DNA on the table, right, and you calculated two or three nanometers, it'd be as very – here, let me give you – here's a better comparison. If you hold a marble in your hand –