Harold 'Sonny' White

Right, right.

Yeah, pull something up.

Yeah, pull something up.

Yeah, pull something up.

Did you see that show with Sonny and Joe where they were talking about what a bunch of maroons. They didn't even know what gravity was. Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

Did you see that show with Sonny and Joe where they were talking about what a bunch of maroons. They didn't even know what gravity was. Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

Did you see that show with Sonny and Joe where they were talking about what a bunch of maroons. They didn't even know what gravity was. Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

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It's interesting, you know, I get a chance to go do a bunch of discussions with students all over the globe, right, and talking about... space exploration, specifically advanced power and propulsion. I really kind of get into this whole difference between to space and through space. And so as part of that narrative, I always spend a little bit of time

It's interesting, you know, I get a chance to go do a bunch of discussions with students all over the globe, right, and talking about... space exploration, specifically advanced power and propulsion. I really kind of get into this whole difference between to space and through space. And so as part of that narrative, I always spend a little bit of time

It's interesting, you know, I get a chance to go do a bunch of discussions with students all over the globe, right, and talking about... space exploration, specifically advanced power and propulsion. I really kind of get into this whole difference between to space and through space. And so as part of that narrative, I always spend a little bit of time

Telling them, right, we live in a society where everybody likes to pretend like we got all this stuff figured out, right? There's nothing left to figure out, right? You know, we got cell phones and internet and airplanes and all different kinds of stuff. There's really nothing left. Just maintain what we have. Right. Well, yeah, exactly.

Telling them, right, we live in a society where everybody likes to pretend like we got all this stuff figured out, right? There's nothing left to figure out, right? You know, we got cell phones and internet and airplanes and all different kinds of stuff. There's really nothing left. Just maintain what we have. Right. Well, yeah, exactly.

Telling them, right, we live in a society where everybody likes to pretend like we got all this stuff figured out, right? There's nothing left to figure out, right? You know, we got cell phones and internet and airplanes and all different kinds of stuff. There's really nothing left. Just maintain what we have. Right. Well, yeah, exactly.

And so I like to remind them, right, when I talk about, well – Let's talk about that. What do we know? And then I kind of take him through that little thought process of the Venn diagram just to say, hey, look, right – These two models are not compatible. That says there's a bigger circle, right, that connects the dots between all this stuff.

And so I like to remind them, right, when I talk about, well – Let's talk about that. What do we know? And then I kind of take him through that little thought process of the Venn diagram just to say, hey, look, right – These two models are not compatible. That says there's a bigger circle, right, that connects the dots between all this stuff.

And so I like to remind them, right, when I talk about, well – Let's talk about that. What do we know? And then I kind of take him through that little thought process of the Venn diagram just to say, hey, look, right – These two models are not compatible. That says there's a bigger circle, right, that connects the dots between all this stuff.

And I highly doubt we'll ever come up with a single step that goes from just the two circles on the Venn diagram to a final one, some grand unified theory. I don't think we'll ever take like one single step. I think it's going to be a series of a bunch of different steps by a bunch of different people over many generations. And it's like there's so much stuff to go figure out.