Harrison Gardner

And, but then you're saying these like two different responses that you've had to someone, you know, if an idea when it first comes is like, I'm imagining like a wisp of smoke almost, you know, it's so fragile.

It's not solid yet.

It hasn't become anything yet.

Like someone can try and blow it away.

You can do whatever with it.

Like,

And it's really hard if you share those ideas very early before you're ready to fight for them because then they can just disappear.

If no one believes in them, even you don't believe in them, then they're definitely not going to exist, right?

But then once you get to the point that the idea is strong enough and you spend enough time with it that you're like, yeah, I do believe in this.

This is something.

This is something that's a part of me.

Then when someone says no to it, that can be fuel.

That can actually make you make it possible.

Which might sound ridiculous to someone who's never, if no one's ever experienced it, it's hard to understand that.

But the moment you've experienced that, these things can happen even without you.

These things exist.

Like we don't uniquely own these ideas.

Obviously, we're just a collection of all the things that influence us, the way the world is now, the context we're in.

We have thoughts and we have perspectives and sometimes those turn into ideas or feel like ideas, but other people are feeling those things too.

And how we bring them into fruition, how we make them turn into something,