Harrison Gardner

You made a film called Herself, maybe back in 2018 or 2019.

Yeah.

And so many people in Ireland saw the film Herself, were really inspired, felt really seen.

It was really addressing something that was a big concern for people.

And they went on to the internet and they Googled how to build my own house.

And they found me and the courses that I was running down in Clare at Common Knowledge.

And that's how I found out about you.

Because people were showing up to these courses that I was running, teaching people how to build with a set of plans from Dominic Stevens.

And this story about like, well, I saw a woman build her own house from these plans in a movie.

And I would like to do the same thing.

And I really just want to talk to you about what it was to create something that was so empowering and inspiring for people that created this real world effect that happened afterwards.

This wasn't just something that...

shifted a thought for them you actually showed them an example of how something could be done and I think it's just so amazing I know you've done so many things since then as well but that movie was really incredible

In many ways, you're doing the same thing that you then inspired other people to do.

You weren't building a house, but you were building a film.

What made you think you could do that?

I think you're definitely in a career right now, Clare.

You're getting paid to do something.

You're a careerist.

Yeah, I imagine Ireland's a very tough critic for what is poetry and what is not poetry.