Harry Mackay

My father is an extremely masculine male.

Three of his children turn out to be gay men out of four.

God knows what he would have thought back in those days.

And I think what's happening with Lance is I don't think this is productive or constructive for him.

In actual fact, it's like a punishment what's going on for him.

I don't know how Lance is thinking, and I'm not Lance, but...

taking away possibly the one thing that he loves, playing the game of AFL football, where for some footballers, that football field is their sense of peace.

It's their way of getting away from other issues in their life.

And for him, taking that away, I'm not saying what he's done is right by any, I don't think there's any right or wrong about it, but I think we need to be more constructive and productive with how we look at these type of issues.

So maybe for Lance's,

um, his, um, environment, his culture of how he's brought up, um, is where he's at his own point today.

So I think maybe looking at, um, setting up not so much community service work, because that can still be seen as a punishment and a dilemma to him, but maybe linking with, um, the gay community and some gay masculine males and having opened his eyes up and said,

Well, guess what?

There are other gay masculine males out there just as masculine as you are who happen to be gay.

And maybe linking with them and opening his eyes and set up a program with him over a period of time and others.

And I think that's the way we need to go.

Yeah.

Not punishing him because we're just isolating him and that's destructive for him.

I think when someone's being sanctioned the first time, we need to look at that and cut it right there.

So then we stop it happening a second time.