Hartley Jafine

She cost your tribe the challenge.

But it wasn't that obvious.

It wasn't that easy.

And watching the social politicking and thinking about who is going to go home and why are they going to go home, that strategizing really got me hooked on the very core of the show.

What is it about watching people backstab each other, connive, strategize, lie?

What is it about all of that that makes the show so addictive?

Part of it is I think we like to use ourselves as kind of players.

We imagine ourselves playing the game and we think to ourselves, if I was in this position, what would I do?

Now, we as viewers at home have a lot more information than the players do.

And I think part of the joy of watching it is trying to imagine what it would be like if you were in those situations, how you would play the game and how you would handle the stresses and the elements of the environment of Survivor.

I remember in the year 2000, it was such like a cultural moment.

SNL was talking about it.

You don't really get that anymore.

It was sort of like a narrative that everyone had at the same time, just talking about how amazing this show was.

Why did it hit so differently back then than suppose if a show like that dropped today it would hit?

I feel like as a show, the concept revolutionized television.

No one had ever seen a show that had this documentary style, this voyeurism, but also be a competition-based show where players are voting each other out.

We had shows like The Real World where it was a reality TV show where watching people live in a house together, but the element of Survivor that really changed TV, that made it such compelling television, was that these are players that have to work together and also simultaneously vote each other out.

Is that the way where Survivor got the format in the way other shows didn't?

It was the competitive nature of it?