Hasan Piker
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Appearances Over Time
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Because, I mean, even Stalin was a big advocate of Israel initially.
I mean, they were the ones who trafficked weapons in 1947 that were used on Palestinian villages by way of Czechoslovakia, right?
Illegally going through the blockade.
there was this idea that like initially labor Zionism and, and, you know, Ben-Gurion was a socialist, right?
Like this was going to be like almost like a Marxist project.
But, but it, it was just ethnic cleansing from the start.
And my assessment on Zionism as an ideology is,
is not that different from Albert Einstein's assessment of Zionism.
Because when he saw Deir Yassin and the violence that the early Zionist brigades were engaging in, Haganah, Irgun, Lehi, these militia movements before the IDF existed, before Israel existed,
And he was actually asked to be the first president of Israel.
He wrote about what Zionism was turning into.
And he warned that what he was seeing was exactly what the Nazis were doing.
And he warned about it.
He said, if we do not have a commitment to binationalism, if we do not have a commitment to the people that are already living there,
the atrocities that I'm seeing that Zionist brigades are engaging in right now, committing right now against the Palestinians is going to turn into exactly what the Nazis have done.
And he was right.
He saw it ahead of time.
I mean, he knew what the Nazis were.
He lived through it, right?
And so my perspective is shaped by people who have done either extensive research on this, like Israeli historian like Ilan Pape, Avi Shalem,