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Hayden Field

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
480 total appearances

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI industry's existential race for profits

So it's interesting that, you know, in order to kind of combat these pricing shifts and just the amount that they're paying these two labs every month,

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI industry's existential race for profits

They're starting to just build their own internal infrastructure and tests and evals just being like, okay, let's really budget here.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI industry's existential race for profits

Like what do we really have to pay top dollar for and what can we kind of like, you know, skimp on, but it'll have around the same type of answer.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI industry's existential race for profits

So that's what I think is interesting.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI industry's existential race for profits

Like this cottage industry of like charting this stuff out internally and then just like keeping that close to the vest and using that as a guide.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI industry's existential race for profits

Right.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI industry's existential race for profits

And it's funny, too, that these labs do promise like, oh, as the years go on, prices are going to drop.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI industry's existential race for profits

Don't worry.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI industry's existential race for profits

We're going to offer these models and access cheaper and cheaper.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI industry's existential race for profits

But that doesn't really square with what's going to have to happen for them to turn a profit, especially one that investors won't roll their eyes at.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI industry's existential race for profits

So that's what's going to be interesting.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI industry's existential race for profits

There's a lot of tension here that we'll have to track over the next six months or so because this is going to be the big year for paying the piper.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI industry's existential race for profits

It's funny because that's exactly what an economist was telling me this morning.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI industry's existential race for profits

He's like, well, you either got to expand to basically the entire general public globally, or you're going to have to raise the prices a lot.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI industry's existential race for profits

And then even then, it may not square with what you actually need.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI industry's existential race for profits

So-

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI industry's existential race for profits

We'll see.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI industry's existential race for profits

It's going to be a really interesting year.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI industry's existential race for profits

I think we're going to see OpenAI further consolidate resources into these two focuses and lose a couple of other side projects.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The AI industry's existential race for profits

So we've heard maybe Atlas is going to go by the wayside.