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Hayden Field

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480 total appearances

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

They can easily switch around.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

That's something they've always done and probably will always do.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

But what I'm seeing for the first time now is that...

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Some people are going off of loyalty more when they stay with a model or just knowing the tone or liking what they've built up with that model, the rapport, the instructions that they've laid into it via special docs and stuff.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

I saw that even when OpenAI was beating Anthropic on some coding benchmarks, a lot of people were like, oh, well, I still like working with Cloud Code, so I'm just going to keep doing that.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

And same with vice versa.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Some people, when Anthropic seemed to be winning the coding wars, some people wanted to stick with OpenAI because they were like, I just like this model better.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

And I'm sure a lot of people feel that way about, you know, some aspects of Grok too.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Like maybe they just like the tone.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

They just like this or that.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

So they're just sticking with it.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

So I think it's like I'm seeing more loyalty with the users in a way I hadn't really seen before.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

I think every company, including XAI, is trying to create like a moat that will keep people in their ecosystem because, I mean, that's the only way to really eventually make money.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Well, they are really on a tear right now.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

I recently wrote that story about how big of a moment Claude is having between the success of Claude Code and Anthropic's safety reputation.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

And also their Super Bowl ads, which we're throwing shade at OpenAI for having ads in the chatbot.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

I asked Amanda Askell about this, actually, when I last spoke with her about what responsibility Anthropic has to feed into or not feed into that narrative about Claude's potential consciousness.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Because I thought it was interesting that Anthropic didn't just outright deny it.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

They've been towing the line of, oh, we don't know.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

It depends on how you define consciousness.