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Hayden Field

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
480 total appearances

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

When you are tasked with building something that doesn't align with your values, maybe you went to a company because you thought you were going to help achieve AGI, or maybe you thought that you were going to be like, you know, curing cancer, making the world a better place, pick your reason out of a hat here.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

And then you're tasked with like creating something like super commercial, short-term, and kind of like in your eyes dumb.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

yeah, you're going to be pretty upset and you're probably going to leave because, again, even if your pay package is tied to a lot of long-term stuff that you're going to do at the company or it's tied to the number of years that you're going to stay there in terms of vesting, sometimes you don't care.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Again, a lot of these people are post-money, so they have enough money.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

It's just about whether they believe in what they're doing day-to-day.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

And if you're doing something you don't agree with or that you think is stupid, yeah, you're going to leave.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Definitely, yes, because there's going to be more transparency, so they're going to have to answer for more of their decisions.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

I think they can still write a few huge checks, but they're going to have to really back it up.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

So, you know, like we talked about earlier, there's a handful of people at each of these companies that are really driving a ton of change, and they have a lot of influence in their business.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

doing a lot more ideation than anyone else.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

So people like that, that they can really back up that check for, yeah.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

But they can't just be doing it left and right willy-nilly like some people think that they have been just out of FOMO.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

So I think the FOMO is going to drop down a little bit as they have to answer for almost every action they take as public companies.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

No, it's definitely on their radar.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

I think it's a bubble that's going to burst in AI.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

People are already asking questions about what Meta's engineers are doing with their eye-popping pay packages that they received.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

And a lot of software engineering work is already getting automated, and OpenAI and Anthropic are being pretty open about that.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

They'll regularly release...

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

results about, hey, this is how good our coding models are.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

They're now at the level of an entry level engineer at our company.