Hayden Finch

That is a helpful strategy.

And ultimately engaging in the task

requires that we push through the difficult starting part more so than just kind of relying on knowing that it's going to feel good at the end.

Right.

And that's the emotional thing.

Right.

Once you can get started, then the emotions are going to kind of take a backseat.

The emotions are there to try to keep you from getting started.

And they're really affected at that for a lot of people.

But once you can get past that, then the emotions will go to the side and then it's a lot easier to continue engaging with it past that.

One thing to keep in mind is that we can't rely on motivation as an antidote to procrastination.

That is one of the things that keeps procrastination going is this belief that, oh, I'll do it when I'm motivated, or I'll do it when I feel like it, or I don't feel like it right now, so I'm just not going to do it right now.

So some version of, I just don't feel like it right now, I'll do it when I do.

That will keep us stuck in procrastination forever.

Indefinitely, we have to be able to find a strategy to do an activity, even when we're not motivated.

So motivation can't come before action, you have to reverse that.

So take action first, and then count on motivation to maybe come down the road, maybe, but we kind of want to just remove that from the equation altogether.

Yeah, thanks, Mike.

This has been a really fun interview.

Thanks for the opportunity to share more about procrastination with your audience.