Hayley Caronia

And so people have told her, leaders have told her, you know, you don't deserve to be here.

Like you should feel bad about being a white woman.

And then you hear just how sad about it is and the struggle.

And you just think about the time and that she puts into like thinking about this, just the negativity that she can't be comfortable in her own skin.

And you don't want that for anybody.

And so when someone says something crazy like that,

And you never want to laugh at people.

Like, I don't want to laugh at these people because it's like, it's sad.

And I just want them to get past it where it's like, you can just live your life.

You can focus on positivity.

Like, it's okay that you're a white woman.

Okay, we're past this as a country.

We've been past it.

And so I feel bad that, you know, you see just some of these leaders on the left just trying to shove this down people's throats and it's working.

And so when you encounter that, it makes you sad.

And that's what you focus on.

when you're interviewing those people.

Absolutely.

Yeah, it is sad to think about.

Because they kind of create their very own doom and gloom reality, and they live in it.