Hayley Kiyoko

And we were like, that's us.

That's our family.

Exactly.

If they can do it, what's stopping us?

We did both read the book, though, I will say, after we started on the

i started with a podcast the book gave you the detail that's yes yeah there's some total money makeover book yes total money makeover but yeah hearing those people just like us doing that debt-free scream it was it was kind of a light bulb moment that we can do it too and i still listen you know every episode and especially when you get people in our age group that have like paid for houses and stuff i'm like why didn't i start earlier you know

And I'd say communication too.

There were some times during, especially through the student loans at the end where things weren't going so good.

We were really getting burnt out.

And I mean, we had a $7 over budget, just all out argument when he knew there was no money in the budget, but he went ahead and spent $7.

And you would have thought that it was the end of all things.

a budget i'm gonna spend this seven dollars but you know and then i came home with my toe between my legs i was like but it was communicating you know when we're struggling together and saying hey i'm struggling in this you know and let the other person kind of help and then there were times that the other one struggled and we just supported each other

This is Jackson.

He's six.

And this is Taylor.

And she's about to be two in December.