Heather Cox Richardson

This matters not just because I want the potholes outside my house filled.

This matters because the human

effort for self-determination and a government that reflects that, not only in my own government but around the world, matter morally and for society, that kind of language is what gave us the attempts in the 1950s to level the playing field for people of color, for example, and in the 1970s

including women as well.

That language really works, but we have to stop thinking, oh, it's a done deal.

We don't have to worry about it any longer.

Oh, I think those two have to go hand in hand.

But they do.

They do go hand in hand.

So it's a really easy sell in the 1950s because people had watched what happened under fascism in Europe.

And not just the horrors that we tend to think about when we think about those regimes, but also the fact that when the Europeans and the allies and the Americans came in,

They were feeding those people because they literally couldn't eat.

Or if you look at what happened in the Soviet Union and in China when there was an attempt to impose an ideology over the agricultural systems, you had these horrific periods when tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, and even millions of people died.

One of the key things that you are identifying, I think, is, first of all, yes.

I mean, I think we need to talk a lot more about the American dream, and that is not having a car in your garage or whatever.

It means that you are able to work hard and rise, whatever that looks like for you, so that your kids are going to have a better life than you did.

Again, whatever that looks like for you.

I do think we need to keep that as part of our language and the reality of it.

But there's also something key to what you said.

And that, I think, is something that is fascinating, that when you listen to people nowadays talking about their disability,