Heather Cox Richardson

He wants to be able to go into Ukraine and to go into the Baltics and perhaps into Finland and into Scandinavia.

And us abandoning NATO, threatening a NATO ally in Greenland slash Denmark.

Yeah.

undermines that entire defensive system.

And once you've done that, once you've torn that apart, the only option is for countries to go back onto an offensive system, making treaties with each other so that if their other neighbor invades, they'll be able to fight it off.

Little wars become big wars, and that is the world in which we live that gave us World Wars I and II.

Except, as I say,

Now we have nuclear weapons, which is one of the key reasons that the allies put together NATO in the first place.

I think people who are paying attention know the issue is to reach the people who are not paying attention.

And I think there is a reflection in what Trump did in the reality of

that often when a country goes to war, it strengthens the leader at home.

And that's kind of a truism we talk about when we talk about the history of foreign policy.

When one country goes after another, the first place to look is not at that other country, it's at what's happening internally in the first country, the aggressor country.

And I think that's really true here.

Like you say, when is the last time you heard about the fact that the Trump administration has deliberately broken the Epstein-Files Transparency Act by releasing

Less than 1% of the documents that were supposed to be released by December 19th, even though Attorney General Pam Bondi claimed that the review was done last July.

So that has helped a lot.

But the trick is to make sure, you know, one of the things that I've been watching really carefully is the American people do not like this adventure in Venezuela at all.

But the MAGA Republicans are coming along behind it and starting to say, oh, this is America first because we're grabbing other people's resources.

Or, oh, I love my strong president.