Heather du Plessis-Allan

I don't even want to know the details, but now I have to.

Do you own the flat and is it mortgage-free a la Louise Upston?

No, I don't.

What would you do, Ginny, if you were out of town?

Would you go in by yourself like Mitch or would you get flatties?

Okay, guys, listen, it's been good to talk to the pair of you.

Thank you very much.

Mark Mitchell, looking forward to the drinks.

Actually, do you know what, Ginny?

Looking forward to drinks in your office next, Budgie.

There's a call to scrap fire an emergency levy that we all pay through our insurance and instead use the money to improve the country's climate resilience.

The calls come from Chris Fafui, who's the Insurance Council CEO.

Morning, Faf.

How much is this going to free up?

About $600 million to $700 million?

So is this the level of money that you think that we should be spending annually on things like stock banks?

OK, so I get what you're doing here, right?

What you want is you want fence at the top of the cliff rather than the ambulance at the bottom.

But problem is who now, who funds fence?

Because this levy is supposed to fund fence.