Heather Duplessy-Allen

But what we do get is like an understanding of who we are.

And that is actually important.

Otherwise we become everything and nothing.

Okay, so this brings me to, I didn't want to bring up Linda Topp.

Because that's a thing, right, that's happened.

But it kind of does bring me to that argument that underpins what Linda Topp was saying, which is you need funding for the arts because if you don't have funding for the arts, there aren't enough of us actually to support the arts.

So you lose those threads of New Zealand stories and New Zealand music and all of that stuff, right?

Yeah.

I mean, and you couldn't get a more kind of biased opinion on it.

Like, I just totally agree with...

what she was saying and and the kind of like passion that was sort of backing that as well and i think it's like we don't understand the effect that arts has on our day-to-day life or our identity as a nation until we see the roll-on effects like 10 years 20 years later but that's the wall that's what it does these ideas sit in us when we experience good art they permeate in us and they inform the way that we live later on down our lives you've made a very good case for it chris of course i would

Imagine if I said, no, cut the arts.

Get rid of it.

Don't need it.

Somebody texted and said that you're into knitting.

Is this the new thing?

That's my new thing on social media.

Yeah, it's sort of my punk attitude way of sort of slowing down a bit.

I think with like sort of technology and AI, there's this like need for everything to happen immediately.

But do you wear the knitting?