Heather Stewart

What kind of migration policy did they want?

How did they want this to work?

I don't know if you remember that press conference on the morning after with Boris Johnson and

Michael Gove who were of course victorious and being around the country on their big red battle bus and they stood up and the whole vibe was of shock and bewilderment and you know it wasn't a kind of confidence about this glorious new future we were going to march towards and so there was this real sense of kind of unknown not only were you going to have a new prime minister the civil war in the Labour Party that was already sort of humming away really started to sort of run red hot after that it

It kickstarted the divide in the Conservative Party.

And it was incredibly unclear.

We knew it would be a wrangle.

It would take quite a long time.

The details of it were a mystery.

I don't think anyone, including Vote Leave themselves, had a very clear picture of how it was going to look.

There is a consensus, really, that it's not gone that well, that the economy is maybe 4% to 8% smaller than it would have been if we'd stayed in the EU.

You know, that's looking at sort of similar countries and what's happened to them since and so on.

It's really significant.

And then that means much less tax revenue, right?

And therefore less to spend on public services.

So it doesn't account for all of it because we've had problems with sickly growth for a very long time since the global financial crisis.

But it means that we're in a worse economic and fiscal position than we would be had we not left.

It's hard to find an economist who disagrees with that, put it that way.

And there's at least a couple of things in play there.

The first one is there was a very long period of uncertainty.