Helen Bond

Exactly.

And I think that's one of the aspects that the film captures really well.

This was a kind of a time where people are just dreaming dreams.

They want to be inspired by people.

They want to think there's something better than what they've got at the moment.

It is.

It's very countercultural because it's not what people think.

And I think one of the difficulties is that we have, even if we're living in a post-Christian culture, our culture has been so influenced by this message that we just think it's normal to go around saying, love your neighbor.

But people in the first century didn't.

Your first duty was to your family, to your kin and your nation, your ethnic group.

And again, the idea that you should sort of help the poor.

This was more of a thing in Jewish society because people did sort of give offerings and things like that to the poor.

But certainly in Roman society, you know, you could be a good person without sort of bothering about the poor.

You know, the poor, they had their own, you know, it was their own fault, people thought half of the time.

So, yeah.

Even the clothes you wear, I mean, everything proclaims your order.

That's absolutely right.

And so, I mean, that's, I think, what's so subversive about this Christian message, the idea that you should look out for people who are not in your box.

And also the idea that you should kind of make yourself a slave, be a servant to other people, you know.

That would have blown their minds.