Helen Bond

But read later on, particularly in the Middle Ages, when now Christians are the majority, it reads very differently and has led to all kinds of terrible things.

Yeah, I think that's right.

He was a disruptor.

He's also wrong place, wrong time.

So had he kept to those rural villages and just kept

there.

Even if he'd come into Judea and just kept to the villages, he might have been okay because no one really cares what's happening in the rural hinterland.

It's the cities that Romans are bothered about.

So yeah, no, I think that's a good way to describe him, a disruptor, but also a disruptor in the wrong place.

Well, I mean, one very basic thing is that, as we said earlier, you know, Jesus's message was about the end of the world coming and getting ready for it.

After Jesus's death and the resurrection, the message changed now to be largely about Jesus himself.

And what God had done through Jesus.

So just the very message of Christianity is something different.

I think he would find it quite surprising, the direction that Christianity had gone.

I mean, of course, people will say, well, this is all sort of led by the Spirit and this is the way that it was going to go anyway.

But there's a lot of sort of readjusting.

And I mean, Christians too thought the end of the world was going to come until fairly recently.

I mean, all the way through the Middle Ages, people were expecting change.

the end, and then they expected Jesus to come back.

And those elements have not quite gone from Christianity, even if they're not as central now.