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Helen MacDonald

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Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

So on one hand, we're criticising a lack of diversity in opinion.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

And at the same time, we're saying we've got too much of it.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

And it's probably not the case that it's the same people arguing about those things.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

But the contrast is nonetheless quite interesting.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

So to say a bit more about the specifics, this UK SAGE group,

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

who presumably translate and discuss the evidence with the UK government, seem pretty important given the party line that they rely on the science heavily.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

But we didn't know, curiously, who they were.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

And the Guardian newspaper in the UK got to the bottom of this this week.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

And there was a linked opinion piece by Anthony Costello.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

And he's a professor of global health and sustainable development.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

And he said success of any advisory group of scientists surely depends on a culture of openness, independence and diversity of opinion.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

And the government to date has not been open about who's been on this committee.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

or at least it didn't seem to be until it got put under pressure.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

The group of people does not seem particularly independent because around half of the people on it are paid government employees, so may not feel that they can give independent advice or speak completely freely.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

And they're not as diverse as you might expect.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

So their opinions might be a bit shallow.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

So, for example, Costello explained that seven of the people on there are clinical academics.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

There are three microbiologists, seven modelers, two behavioral scientists with backgrounds in disaster and terrorism, one geneticist and a civil servant.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

Very few women and only one person from a minority background.

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - lack of testing transparency, how to give good debate

So last week we heard from Julian Sheather that ethicists might have an important role to play in the crisis.