Helen Pitt

And on Today in Focus, we've covered for years how far-right parties and anti-EU sentiment are on the rise in Europe.

And I just wonder the extent to which you see...

Orban's defeat as a turning point in Europe.

I wonder, for example, how Marine Le Pen in France will be feeling right now, seeing what's happened over in Hungary.

Yeah.

And Alice Weidel potentially also in Germany with the AFD.

Yes, of course.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know the EU better than most people.

How strong do you think the union is looking right now in these unstable and uncertain times?

And finally, there was something I thought was really interesting that the incoming prime minister of Hungary said in his first press conference this week.

So he at least hopes that we will rejoin the EU.

Do you see this bill that Starmer is pursuing as one little step on the road to rejoining the EU?

Lisa, thank you very much.

Thank you.

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