Helen Trinca

Yeah, thank you indeed.

Thank you.

So she emerges as a very difficult person indeed.

She's very kind, generous, smart, intelligent, savvy, and yet so complex and so internally, I think, divided within herself so that at times she could behave in a very cruel way.

She would pull people into her very closely and then just let them go without many explanations.

She was, I guess, in some ways we would call in modern sort of language, fairly damaged psychologically, I suppose.

And yet an incredible survivor.

You know, she had suffered depression and she suffered.

I suppose a trauma of her mother, suicide, but she emerged from that as a very interesting and ultimately highly successful writer in the sense that her books are very good.

You know, she didn't have a lot of, didn't have major success when she was alive, but since her death and since the republication of them by text publishing, you know, she has received much more acclaim.

Interesting.

I mean, I think that's interesting because she was a clever girl and, of course, her life story is that she never really made it in the, you know, that cleverness didn't really turn out to be her salvation, you know.

So she, for many years from her, until she was really 50 and she had started having successful

with the books, had no career, basically.

She was working in little antique shops and she was doing little bits of filing work for lawyers, you know, and she never sort of made it.

She couldn't get there.

So she knew herself, I think, and recognised she was clever and I think had been really held back by her own personality, by events, I guess.

She, you know, she no doubt blamed, she certainly blamed her father.

It's a very, very clever line.

And, um,