Henry Zeffman

And for the UK government, there's not very much they can do.

He's metaphorically tearing up part of the friendship.

Yeah.

And, you know, Keir Starmer will say that now and other European leaders will say that now.

But there's a very big difference.

We've talked about it.

It feels like we've talked about it so often at the weekends.

There is such a yawning gap between the rhetoric of Western European leaders like Keir Starmer and actually the reality of how much cash they're prepared to put towards its defence.

Yes, I've heard him tell you in interviews, Chris, he's told us in interviews that they're increasing defence spending very significantly.

That's true.

But by the measure that they say it's really, really required, it doesn't touch the sides.

Well, we could always ask our chums next door on AmeriCast.

They might be able to have a guess at what they might do.

But if you go back to what happened in the 80s, America did sort of help in a tacit way.

So they absolutely didn't have a formal role, but I think there was sort of intelligence support and that kind of thing.

And as you say, America's position on this has always been quite sort of ambivalent, but as such a close pal of the UK, that kind of tacit support

you would have assumed as a UK government, is something that could have been maintained.

It's also not clear how serious Argentina is about it.

I mean, of course, they've always claimed vehemently in modern times that it belongs to them and the Islas Las Malvinas in Spanish should be returned to them.

But we also don't know if they have any intention of actually doing anything about it.