Hilary Duff

Half that's not shiny is like a lot of moving parts and a lot of scheduling and a lot of work and a lot of like, you know, I have four kids and a family that I really like being with.

It's this like combination of like forever.

My husband and I were just like, this is going to be a sick victory lap.

And we kind of kept calling it that.

And it's really cool to be at this stage of my life and just have ownership over myself and like what I feel about things and my opinion and what I will and won't do and like not knowing and having to ask and like just this whole – like I'm just so much better now.

and like clearer and like to get to have the the opportunity to go back and like celebrate things that you know i didn't feel like were mine anymore um is like i'm just really looking forward to it can you explain a little bit more about what you mean by like you didn't feel like they were yours anymore

That it's, it's kind of seems heavier than it is, but even like thinking about what my, my set list is going to look like and what songs I'm going to be comfortable putting on, you know, actually doing with my body on stage and, or like singing lyrics of songs that are 20 years old and being like, what is, how do I, how do I show up and like just make this me?

And I think before rehearsals, it felt like,

Like those weren't quite mine yet.

And I didn't know how to make them that way.

And then I was like, just started tearing it up.

And I was like, got it.

I'm here to eat.

And like, it's easy.

And I feel far enough removed from it that I'm not like embarrassed or

uncomfortable like they're mine and they're mine to keep and like even the with love dance like that was like a like the internet lore around the with love dance so good so good but like for me horrifying like absolutely horrifying but like now I'm like this is I get to be a part of it and it's way more fun which I think is life like I've interviewed so many people that were child stars and it feels like a pretty

You know, because that is to grow up and have everybody to like recall all of your like chapters is a wild experience.

And there's been a lot of highs and lows in my career.

I think being a child actor and doing something that made such a big mark on people's literal soul created a lot of confusion and a pretty big battle scar on me where I'm like, do people feel that... Playing a role on TV that never grows up, she's just there forever, right?

And so getting into...