Hoda Tahun

It's both. 2025 will be the opening of a new chapter for me as I step down from co-leading the bit of the business I've led up to now. There's a real chance to do some new things with the leaders we advise. So I'm looking forward to that. I can't wait to hear all about it. Hoda, the same question for you. What is one of your goals for 2025?

Well, you know, I'm really excited to continue a lot of the advisory work that we do for our clients because it gets... It gives us the chance to be very bespoke, very tailored in how we deliver very high quality advisory services that span beyond just traditional searches, which is what I think we used to be known for.

Well, you know, I'm really excited to continue a lot of the advisory work that we do for our clients because it gets... It gives us the chance to be very bespoke, very tailored in how we deliver very high quality advisory services that span beyond just traditional searches, which is what I think we used to be known for.

Well, you know, I'm really excited to continue a lot of the advisory work that we do for our clients because it gets... It gives us the chance to be very bespoke, very tailored in how we deliver very high quality advisory services that span beyond just traditional searches, which is what I think we used to be known for.

Long may it continue.

Long may it continue.

Long may it continue.

Well, we survived the rapid fire questions once again. Well done, Simon. And I have to stay. I still prefer being the one asking the questions instead of answering them.

Well, we survived the rapid fire questions once again. Well done, Simon. And I have to stay. I still prefer being the one asking the questions instead of answering them.

Well, we survived the rapid fire questions once again. Well done, Simon. And I have to stay. I still prefer being the one asking the questions instead of answering them.

Me too. Me too.

Me too. Me too.

Me too. Me too.

That wraps up season four of Redefiners. As we come to the end of the year. Hopefully we all come away a bit wiser, a bit more hopeful, and a lot more grateful for friends and loved ones. And in the spirit of gratitude, thank you, Simon, for being such a wonderful partner and co-host on our Redefiners journey.

That wraps up season four of Redefiners. As we come to the end of the year. Hopefully we all come away a bit wiser, a bit more hopeful, and a lot more grateful for friends and loved ones. And in the spirit of gratitude, thank you, Simon, for being such a wonderful partner and co-host on our Redefiners journey.

That wraps up season four of Redefiners. As we come to the end of the year. Hopefully we all come away a bit wiser, a bit more hopeful, and a lot more grateful for friends and loved ones. And in the spirit of gratitude, thank you, Simon, for being such a wonderful partner and co-host on our Redefiners journey.

Thank you, Hoda. I hope I've got the job. Thank you for being a very generous and gentle guide in my first attempt at this.

Thank you, Hoda. I hope I've got the job. Thank you for being a very generous and gentle guide in my first attempt at this.

Thank you, Hoda. I hope I've got the job. Thank you for being a very generous and gentle guide in my first attempt at this.

You did wonderfully. We also wanted to thank our colleague, Clark Murphy, for his curiosity and resilience in co-hosting Redefiners for the past four years, as well as Emma Coombe for her hosting expertise with Leadership Lounge.