Holly Cardew

Who am I following or studying?

Well, you know who I'm really curious about but I haven't found any information on?

Who?

It's Ben Chestnut from MailChimp.

Yeah.

And I'm like, he has millions and millions of SMEs using his platform.

Yep.

So what is his story?

So him and the other one is Toby from Shopify.

So I saw him speak recently at the Shopify conference and that was really interesting.

And he's really into virtual reality, which is where I want to take Pixie.

Like how do we get virtual reality into commerce?

But that's a whole nother story.

Yeah, exactly.

So I'm definitely interested in where he's going and what he's doing and how he's really built the company up.

My favorite is definitely intercom.io and Asana.

I don't think necessarily ended.

I think it's definitely a challenge running a company and having a relationship when the other person doesn't understand fully.

Like whoever's in your life, like even my mom, she would never understand completely what you're going through.

But I wouldn't say it's definitely like the reason.