Holly Wainwright

That last bit was like him saying giving everyone permission to have a nice night.

Being like what we do is important.

Yeah, 100%.

The whole ceremony feels really old-fashioned.

Yeah, I agree.

Yeah.

It is tricky because do you remember for a while there the Oscars was trying to be relevant with its hosts and there was that year when it was Anne Hathaway and James Franco.

I'll never forget that.

Nobody wanted to do it.

It was ahead of its time, that one.

But it became like a poison chalice.

Nobody wanted that gig because it's the most criticised, blah, blah.

So now they've obviously just gone...

Billy Crystal did it for like what seemed like 100 years.

Yeah.

And, you know, like a lot of the Oscars does feel like it's still 1982, like the music, like when people are coming on and off, the glamorous lady who leads everybody on and off is so weird now.

Amelia and I were talking about the set and how it looked really dark and weird.

And then I read that according to Vanity Fair, the year's stage design is meant to represent a calming garden courtyard.

I think they need to hand it over to Rock Nation who do like the Super Bowl.

And they just need to be like, what would you do with the Oscars?