Holly Wainwright

He's probably the name that most people would be most familiar with.

Happens to the manosphere people quite often.

But they also do lots of, these guys in general, lots of courses about finance, crypto, PT, lots of training and nutrition and workout stuff, lots of pyramid sounding like investment schemes because it's all about getting rich and ripped and getting the ladies.

He's English.

It's just, oh.

Really unsuccessful with women, particularly the kind of women these men particularly put on high value.

Yeah, no, Charlemagne never gets those women.

Yes, you do.

You meet his wife and his children to a point.

Well, one of the things very early on, because obviously I know about this world because of my job and I live on the internet and stuff.

Brent doesn't really know about this world.

You know, he's a Gen X man who doesn't really have, I'm always trying to, because we have a teenage son, I'm always trying to be like, you need to get across it.

And his view, like Amelia's, is yuck.

No, thanks.

Leave me alone.

But I made him watch it.

I sat him down and said, we're watching it.

That's the same thing I did with Adolescence.

I said, I don't care.

I want to hear about it.