Holly Wainwright

Energy?

Energy, yeah.

And I love this, right?

It did also make me wonder, listening to that conversation, in whether or not we all might have slightly different definitions of friendship and what we want from friendships.

Because, and like you, Amelia, my life experience is that I've spent many, many years now in no proximity to some of my favourite people.

So I'm very comfortable with not being constantly in contact with people.

Like I, if someone I haven't spoken to for a year messages me and says, let's have a drink,

My first thought is not, where have you been?

I'm like, oh, that would be great.

You know what I mean?

I think there are levels of friendship that this isn't true for, but that in general constant contact is not my definition of friendship.

So I don't think therefore that's why this doesn't – like reply only friends don't upset me so much because I'm kind of like –

Well, who's got time to be messaging every day?

And you and me had a really good chat about that because the problem with the constant contact stuff is that sometimes you've got lots to talk about with somebody, you know, so you might be in a period of high engagement, but then you might not.

And to me, that doesn't mean that friendship is dying or in danger or anything.

It's just, it's just a life thing.

But the reach out is crucial.

And you made the point in that conversation, which I thought is really true, that how are you is the worst question.

Oh, it's.

And I know I'm guilty of it often, right, because I'll suddenly think, I haven't talked to Betty in months and I've got two minutes while I'm not doing anything.