Holly Wainwright

Exactly.

From the age of 11.

No, that's not the good news.

We all know that.

I'm talking about the men.

oh finally men are now included in our whiplash of waxing and growing and waxing and growing because hairy chests are officially back i'm looking at the script for today's show it's on this ipad here where we put like little points about what we wanted to talk about remind us who we are what we're doing there's just lots of pictures of really hot men with their shoes on i look

You put some of those in there.

Oh, I think that they're definitely hot and the chest hair is just like inching them up a little harder.

The icing on the cake.

Yeah.

Because a conversation around this sort of started bubbling away around the Time of Love story, that TV show that everybody was watching a month or two ago.

Because the producer said it was really hard to cast a modern actor with chest hair.

Because for a long time, particularly among young men, it's been the thing to get rid of all the chest hair.

And the back hair and all the hair.

Well, maybe not the leg hair so much, unless they're cyclists.

You want to show it.

So when they found Paul Anthony Kelly, who's the model who ended up playing JFK Jr., one of the things that got him over the line was his delightfully hairy chest.

And it's beautiful.

It is.

Wow.