Holly Wainwright

I'm Claire Stephens.

And I'm Em Burnham.

And look, I've been listening to the book that everyone is talking about.

Em has been having some very good hair days and Claire has yet another of her brilliant podcast records for you.

Yes, it's Recommendations.

But first, friends, good news.

Good news.

Not only women are any longer subject to ridiculous fashion trends that require them to grow and reduce different parts of their body.

Young girls too.

Exactly.

From the age of 11.

No, that's not the good news.

We all know that.

I'm talking about the men.

oh finally men are now included in our whiplash of waxing and growing and waxing and growing because hairy chests are officially back i'm looking at the script for today's show it's on this ipad here where we put like little points about what we wanted to talk about remind us who we are what we're doing there's just lots of pictures of really hot men with their shoes on i look

You put some of those in there.

Oh, I think that they're definitely hot and the chest hair is just like inching them up a little harder.

The icing on the cake.

Yeah.

Because a conversation around this sort of started bubbling away around the Time of Love story, that TV show that everybody was watching a month or two ago.