Holly Wainwright

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Hello, Holly Wainwright here.

I'm an executive editor at Mamma Mia and I have been part of this business, an independent women's media company, for more than a decade now.

I have seen a lot, but being independent has always meant that we don't have anyone telling us to play it safe or to avoid the topics that feel a bit too messy or uncomfortable for a boardroom full of dudes to handle.

And I never take that for granted.