Holly Wainwright

So if you live regionally, A, there's less public transport.

So it's all fine for people to say, just catch public transport.

There is no public transport where I live.

There's like two buses a day that go to a nearby town.

But if I want to get the train, I've still got to drive 20 minutes

to get there.

And then that's just living in a small town regionally.

If you live rurally, that's a whole different ballgame.

So it's kind of like, I think this affects you differently depending on where you live.

And the other thing that compounds for regional people, and if you're living in the regions, and this is really stressing you, we want to say, obviously, we see you, is that we also don't have as many petrol stations.

So say my town has one independent petrol station.

And they're not necessarily getting the same level of supply as some of the bigger places.

And you also have less choice.

So the cascade of impact is significant.

And so I can go, right, well, I'm going to get the train to the city this week instead of driving.

But I still need to drive to get there.

There's a lot of driving that Australians around the country have to do.

If you live in the suburbs, our cities are sprawling suburban centres.

If you live in the suburbs, public transport isn't great.

If you live in the regions, it isn't great.