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Just by being in that location. Dan, just to confirm that, Iran has implemented a comprehensive surveillance system to enforce its mandatory hijab laws utilizing various technologies, one of which is cameras and facial recognition. So they've put cameras in public spaces to identify women who are not adhering to the hijab dress code.
Just by being in that location. Dan, just to confirm that, Iran has implemented a comprehensive surveillance system to enforce its mandatory hijab laws utilizing various technologies, one of which is cameras and facial recognition. So they've put cameras in public spaces to identify women who are not adhering to the hijab dress code.
It gets a little bit worse in Iran because they have this new app called the Nizar app, where the government has introduced the Nizar mobile application, which allows you as a citizen to report another citizen who is not wearing their hijab. And it logs their location, the time when they weren't wearing it, and the vehicle license plate.
It gets a little bit worse in Iran because they have this new app called the Nizar app, where the government has introduced the Nizar mobile application, which allows you as a citizen to report another citizen who is not wearing their hijab. And it logs their location, the time when they weren't wearing it, and the vehicle license plate.
With the crowdsourced data, it can then go after that individual.
With the crowdsourced data, it can then go after that individual.
I had Mustafa Suleiman on the podcast in 2023 when all of this stuff started kicking off. And he is the CEO of Microsoft AI. You're familiar with Mustafa? Of course, yeah. And one of the things he said to me at the time was, one of my fears is a tiny group of people who wish to cause harm are going to have access to tools that can instantly destabilize our world. That's the challenge.
I had Mustafa Suleiman on the podcast in 2023 when all of this stuff started kicking off. And he is the CEO of Microsoft AI. You're familiar with Mustafa? Of course, yeah. And one of the things he said to me at the time was, one of my fears is a tiny group of people who wish to cause harm are going to have access to tools that can instantly destabilize our world. That's the challenge.
How to stop something that can cause harm or potentially kill. That's where we need containment. And it sounds a little bit like what you're saying. Amjad, that we will now have these tools. You were talking in the context of the military, but as Brett said, there are even smaller groups of people that might have been, I don't know, cartels or gangs can do similar harm.
How to stop something that can cause harm or potentially kill. That's where we need containment. And it sounds a little bit like what you're saying. Amjad, that we will now have these tools. You were talking in the context of the military, but as Brett said, there are even smaller groups of people that might have been, I don't know, cartels or gangs can do similar harm.
And at the moment, in terms of autonomous weapons, both the US and China are investing heavily in AI-powered weapons, autonomous drones and cyber warfare, because they're scared of the other one getting it first. And we talked about how much of our lives run on the internet, but cyber weapons are
And at the moment, in terms of autonomous weapons, both the US and China are investing heavily in AI-powered weapons, autonomous drones and cyber warfare, because they're scared of the other one getting it first. And we talked about how much of our lives run on the internet, but cyber weapons are
And cyber AI agents that could be deployed to take down China's X, Y, or Z, or vice versa, are of real concern. Yep.
And cyber AI agents that could be deployed to take down China's X, Y, or Z, or vice versa, are of real concern. Yep.
I did ask him this question and I remember the answer because it was such a stark moment for me. I said to Mustafa, do you think it's possible to contain it? And he replied, we must. So I asked him again, I said, do you think it's possible to contain it? And he replied, we must. And I asked him again, I said, do you think it's possible?
I did ask him this question and I remember the answer because it was such a stark moment for me. I said to Mustafa, do you think it's possible to contain it? And he replied, we must. So I asked him again, I said, do you think it's possible to contain it? And he replied, we must. And I asked him again, I said, do you think it's possible?
Are you scared of anything else or concerned about anything else as it relates to AI outside of autonomous weapons?
Are you scared of anything else or concerned about anything else as it relates to AI outside of autonomous weapons?