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Vanessa Van Edwards is a body language expert and recovering awkward person. Her book, Cues, appeared on the Wall Street Journal's bestseller list, and she routinely consults for top companies like Google and Amazon.

Vanessa Van Edwards is a body language expert and recovering awkward person. Her book, Cues, appeared on the Wall Street Journal's bestseller list, and she routinely consults for top companies like Google and Amazon.

Vanessa Van Edwards is a body language expert and recovering awkward person. Her book, Cues, appeared on the Wall Street Journal's bestseller list, and she routinely consults for top companies like Google and Amazon.

Vanessa Van Edwards, welcome to Unplanned. Yay! Okay, is it okay if I give you a hug? I heard you're a hugger.

Vanessa Van Edwards, welcome to Unplanned. Yay! Okay, is it okay if I give you a hug? I heard you're a hugger.

Vanessa Van Edwards, welcome to Unplanned. Yay! Okay, is it okay if I give you a hug? I heard you're a hugger.

So I was so curious how you'd react to that because you've said before that you botched a pitch when you tried to hug the producer who said verbally that they did not like hugs.

So I was so curious how you'd react to that because you've said before that you botched a pitch when you tried to hug the producer who said verbally that they did not like hugs.

So I was so curious how you'd react to that because you've said before that you botched a pitch when you tried to hug the producer who said verbally that they did not like hugs.

I resonate with you so much because that is me.

I resonate with you so much because that is me.

I resonate with you so much because that is me.

If I were in that situation, I'd probably go, I got famous off of doing TikTok dances and then see how they would react because it's actually true.

If I were in that situation, I'd probably go, I got famous off of doing TikTok dances and then see how they would react because it's actually true.

If I were in that situation, I'd probably go, I got famous off of doing TikTok dances and then see how they would react because it's actually true.

So my dad, I don't want to spill stuff, but basically I saw my dad go through some job losses as a kid. And so my framework for people liking me or being successful was, oh, if I can make enough money, that'll make my life perfect. I was the most depressed I've ever been when I had the most money I ever had, which was really weird.

So my dad, I don't want to spill stuff, but basically I saw my dad go through some job losses as a kid. And so my framework for people liking me or being successful was, oh, if I can make enough money, that'll make my life perfect. I was the most depressed I've ever been when I had the most money I ever had, which was really weird.

So my dad, I don't want to spill stuff, but basically I saw my dad go through some job losses as a kid. And so my framework for people liking me or being successful was, oh, if I can make enough money, that'll make my life perfect. I was the most depressed I've ever been when I had the most money I ever had, which was really weird.

So to hear you say that is really encouraging because people didn't go up to the billionaire. Yeah. They didn't go up to the billionaire. Like in my head, it's like, oh, the billionaire is the one who is that matters the most. No, they don't.