Host (Jeff)

I was trying to look at shadows, but obviously the light's in a different area.

Because you're really trying to figure out.

I think in that, the second one, it's going forward.

You can see that noticeably the ball is travelling forward.

It's quite possible.

I think that we've talked about this in the past.

If it's grey, stay away.

So the TMO doesn't want to come in on that.

I don't know that we should be refereeing rugby to the scoreline and saying... I'm not saying that they did, but I get a feeling... I can see what you're saying with it, yeah.

Well, again, I think that's because it's so grey.

It's such a marginal thing.

Two erudite, handsome men, and we're disagreeing.

I go back to 2007.

So why wouldn't the TMO disagree?

You do the NFL thing, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, I think it comes down to, obviously, Super Rugby only has so much money to be putting into things.

And if you look at the cricket scenario and you see in Australia, cricket Australia has the best technology.

If you go to Bangladesh last night... Don't ask the English.

They may be, but what I'm saying is that there's different technology and the affordability of different technology.

I mean, how many times are we going to see a four-pass that's marginal like that that's going to require that grid technology?