Howard Lutnick
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So can you bring us into the room leading into April 1st?
April 2nd.
April 2nd, sorry.
And bring us into the room
debating tariffs, debating where you wanted to start, debating the game theory.
What were the puts and takes and how did you come up with the decisions you made?
And then if you could just reflect back on what went right, what would you want to redo and what was maybe and still is misunderstood?
What you're saying is we became effective employees of the people that were producing the things that we created.
Let me just stop for a second.
That is the first time I've heard that it is an extremely elegant framing, actually.
It sets up
an incredibly powerful way to measure the effectiveness of tariffs.
And is that how you think about it?
Which is that imbalance is the North Star.
Once we own at least the same of them as they do of us.
That's balance.
That's balance.
We're balanced.
Right.
And right now we're at a $26 trillion.