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Howard Marks

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Bloomberg Talks
Howard Marks Talks Interest Rate Cuts

So I can stop now.

Bloomberg Talks
Howard Marks Talks Interest Rate Cuts

Well, I think that the unproductive bubbles I would describe as financial fads, portfolio insurance was one, subprime mortgages was another, just financial activities that become fashionable, zoom into popularity, get overhyped, and then recede.

Bloomberg Talks
Howard Marks Talks Interest Rate Cuts

But then there are

Bloomberg Talks
Howard Marks Talks Interest Rate Cuts

bubbles which are based on technological progress, starting with the steam engine, the railroad, the radio, the automobile, computers, internet, et cetera.

Bloomberg Talks
Howard Marks Talks Interest Rate Cuts

And these actually push society ahead and change it irreversibly.

Bloomberg Talks
Howard Marks Talks Interest Rate Cuts

But in the process, there is a bubble surrounding their implementation which is overly accelerated and overly financed and goes to excess.

Bloomberg Talks
Howard Marks Talks Interest Rate Cuts

and end up destroying a lot of capital, but leave society greatly changed.

Bloomberg Talks
Howard Marks Talks Interest Rate Cuts

And I'm sure that AI is in the latter category in terms of effect on society.

Bloomberg Talks
Howard Marks Talks Interest Rate Cuts

And the question is, will the implementation prove to have been excessive in scope and in the way it's financed?

Bloomberg Talks
Howard Marks Talks Interest Rate Cuts

No, but it...

Bloomberg Talks
Howard Marks Talks Interest Rate Cuts

You know, when investors hate everything and won't touch it with the 10-foot pole, chances are it's going to be on sale because nobody has pushed up the price.

Bloomberg Talks
Howard Marks Talks Interest Rate Cuts

In fact, their disinterest has pushed down the price.

Bloomberg Talks
Howard Marks Talks Interest Rate Cuts

But when everybody likes something and is excited about something, chances are it may be overhyped and overpriced.

Bloomberg Talks
Howard Marks Talks Interest Rate Cuts

So you just have to be careful.

Bloomberg Talks
Howard Marks Talks Interest Rate Cuts

What does that look like?

Bloomberg Talks
Howard Marks Talks Interest Rate Cuts

What I say in the memo is that it's okay to lend for activities, even if they're uncertain, but not if the outcomes are purely conjectural.

Bloomberg Talks
Howard Marks Talks Interest Rate Cuts

I mean, in order to be a smart lender, you have to have good visibility on the extent to which the thing is likely to repay interest in principle.

Bloomberg Talks
Howard Marks Talks Interest Rate Cuts

If it's just purely conjectural, you shouldn't be a lender.

Bloomberg Talks
Howard Marks Talks Interest Rate Cuts

And in fact, I think the memo says that...

Bloomberg Talks
Howard Marks Talks Interest Rate Cuts

where that's the case, you should actually, if you wanna participate, you should be in the equity so at least you get the upside.

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